aside from all of the media situations, there were some breakthroughs it seems like with south korea. some cracks in the door. between those two at least. >> sean: i think the present government of south korea following in the path of brian south korea and governments is open to this kind of persuasion. i think they have a very misguided view about what's going on. a lot of this happened in the 2,000 olympics in 2004 and 2006, it didn't slow north korea's nuclear weapons program down at all. this is also a form of propaganda. i think what senator coates is saying about north korea posing an existential threat is important. when he says existential, he means our existence. the fact of north korea's nuclear weapons could end the existence of american cities, i find that intolerable. those who say we can live with a nuclear north korea badly misunderstand the nature of the regime and the threat of a truly