if you are surveilling carter page who never got paid, that's what we know about that, i don't think he was integral to the campaign but he had contact with people on the campaign and all of the conversations both written and verbal were being surveilled by the federalal government. >> that's what surveillance is. >> tucker: at the obama administration is spying on the trump campaign. >> the obama administration thankfully took this very seriously. they went and got a want on someone, the warrant was based on george papadopoulos. they dossier was part of the warrant. >> tucker: that's not true -- the point is, let's be totally honest here. the obama administration is spying on the trump campaign, maybe there's an awesome reason for it, no one has explained that yet. we were are assuming it's totally fine, he would not assume it's totally fine if you flip around. >> i happened to trust our government, i know these days is