platform to put on its charm offensive isn't going to change anything that the united states and its allies are still going to try to isolate north korea to convince it to give up its nuclear weapons and ballistic missile program. back to you. >> dana: thank you very much, rick. those are important interviews. fox news exclusive. for more on this now with walter russell meade, wall street journal global view columnist. i was so thrilled to know you would be joining "the wall street journal" so i could read you there. i love the way you think about things. help me understand, why do you think the russians want to meddle, not just in our elections, but latin america, too, south america? what do they think they're getting out of this? >> they're getting influence and they're getting attention. it's important to president putin to look to people of -- make russia look like a great power again. and remember, he's an old kgb guy. back during the cold war, soviet