at all? >> because that's what you would like to policy makers to set the policies so that experts can implement -- >> tucker: we elected a realityy tv star who ran on building a wall. people did not elect him because he was a reality tv star, and they did it because he wanted to build a wall. he was very literal about it. i now in washington, they are saying, it's not a real wall. i'm thinking it's not a real democracy. >> we want our experts to protect the american people. experts say we need a mix of t infrastructure are , technology- >> tucker: you are ignoring voters. >> of the voters have spoken and they elected donald trump. he is the president. >> tucker: what did he run on? >> he ran a securing our borders. >> tucker: he ran on the wall. speak about secure the border. >> no, let's build a wall. anything short of that, you're not a trump folder. they want max.