speeches. including when bashing the united states in 2016. at the time, donald trump was saying that he was one of my five advisors along with george papadopoulos. >> tucker: the trump people? >> the kremlin. >> tucker: he's a russian agent? you are saying that anybody who does a business transaction in which -- giving a speech for money is a business transaction. >> it was more than just giving speeches for money. technically going back to his college thesis, he was very pro-russia. you are making fun of the left being pro-russia -- >> tucker: if you like russia, that makes you anti-american? >> what makes you anti-american is giving a speech at the kremlin bashing the united states. it's not a business transaction. it's not something other than something that is considered rather unpatriotic against thek backdrop of a presidential candidate saying, yes, he's one ofin my five people with george papadopoulos giving me foreign policy o advice. >> tucker: that's a ludicrous claim, they did not have a -- >> he said it.