rates. makes the stock market look a little less attractive. some of it might've been the machines taking over. at a certain point when the market drops enough, they have algorithms that kick in and that could have exacerbated it. i think the important point is that the economy itself is still very strong. and a gift to the lack of wisdom of the president using the stock market as an indicator of the health. >> bret: sometimes politicians often try to stay away from using the market because of just this reason. that said, if you think about it that sometimes the increase of confidence in an economy can actually cause some fear about what the fed is going to do as far as interest rates. >> i think a lot of people are concerned about that and i agree completely with the point that kimberly made. you live by the sword, you die by the sword. you put it out there is the single greatest indicator of your economic prowess, then when you take a hit, the stock market