steve: absolutely incredible. obviously we're so relieved that you are okay, all three of you are okay. but you know, this is -- you know, unfortunately a reality for many people. i mean you've got it on camera here and it's affected us here. but this is what a lot of people experience in their neighborhood. >> they do. this has been going on throughout san francisco, these thugs targeting media crews and stealing their cameras. that's happening throughout san francisco. and one of the more shocking things is when the police responded -- it was a wonderful police response by the way. they said, even if we catch this guy and charge him with armed robbery, the best we can hope to get is maybe probation. and i have to say, i was just shocked at that. steve: we need kimberly's take on that. maybe we can get that later. that's what he used to do in san francisco. thaidgesthanks, anita. glad you're okay, tom whitaker.