unwra, the refugee organization. a lot of people have observed that unwra isn't working. take for example how many refugees were there at the end of world war ii in europe. tens of millions. how many refugees are there today? zero. palestinian refugees, a few years later, 1948-'49, how many were there? half a million, 600,000, today, how many are there? 5 million according to unwra. unwra has different accounting rules and all the other refugee organizations in the world. united states has the right to raise questions. you don't have to hear threats of violence because those questions are being asked. >> shannon: what you make of his response? we talk about the eight, $60 million, usaid, being cut from unwra and they are by far the biggest donor to that fund and that effort. erakat said to me that he worried because so many of the people are completely dependent