the media hate the president, they can no longer cover them objectively. it was interesting that the argument mick mulvaney is making that we are managing this shutdown better. in the past, president obama tried to create maximum pain to pressure lawmakers. now he basically laid out how they are trying to avoid that. >>paul: why do democrats think they can get away with this? they are the ones that are the cause of the shutdown. the house did its job. now there's a majority in the senate to pass the house bill except the democrats aren't providing those over 60. why do you think they will win? >> they went into this with conventional wisdom which has always been republicans are always blamed for shutdowns. whether they are in the white house, out of it, and congress. i think one of the things that is materially different this time is that the republicans