funding to this bill. but they can't do that. -- didn't do. that neither side is getting what they want. i think americans are going to see through the blame game when democrats try to blame republicans. >> there are the democrats getting something, because public opinion tends to be on their side rightly or wrongly. for them if they think it's a winning p.r. argument even if they're not substantive getting what they want do they count it as a win? >> maybe in the past democrats have successfully passed the blame off to republicans in when a shutdown happens, they think they can repeat it in this case. republicans are in charge of all three branchs of government, to a person who is not engaged in what is going here, it would be logical to conclude that republicans are sfon for the shutdown. but it is true that republicans sort of exhausted all their options in this case to try and get democrats to the table. when you do see interviews with democrats, they're being pressed on their rationale, why aren't you voting for the continuing resolution, the white house laid