people. >> pretty severe. >> sean: i sat through a security briefing with governor rick perry. i've been on the border 12 times, rio grande, san diego, helicopter, horseback, all-terrain vehicle, boats, you name it, i was there. also saw tunnels, i was in the tunnels. the amount of drugs is insane. i sat through the security briefing prior two42,000 people were victims of crimes by illegal immigrants and a seven and a half year. backup time. do you care about them? >> of course i do. we talked about kate steinle -- >> sean:n: why don't we protect the american people first? put a door inside the wall -- >> the gold door. he loves gold. >> sean: 642,000 end. >> just ahe come of the point is that walls work, you don't want to because you guys need new voters.