despite republicans promising for eight years that they wanted to repeal obamacare, didn't get it done. it's very difficult to take something back once it is given or created in washington, d.c. >> lucy, would you support this if we said, look, we're not trying to cut, not trying to make cuts here. >> right. steve: trying to redistribute, take the power and the decision-making from the federal bureau and put it not just the state bus closer to people than that. would you be in favor of this? >> you know me, i'm in favor of anything that's reasonable, and i've seen my fair share of ridiculous, makes no sense type of activity from all of those departments. especially the department of education. i mean those -- we called it race to the bottom, but the funds that were competitive. i mean you had consultants making money out of wazzu, putting together the 100 page proposals to submit to the