♪ ♪ paul: oprah winfrey's golden globes speech last weekend igniting speculation that the talk show host is eyeing a run for the white house in 2020, setting up a potential showdown between two celebrity candidates. president bush said this week that he well -- president trump said this week he welcomes the prospect but doubts it'll happen. >> oprah would be a lot of fun. i know her very well. you know, i did one of her last shows. she had donald trump. this was before politics. her last week, and she had donald trump and my family, it was very nice. so i like oprah. i don't think she's going to run. paul: we're back with dan, kim and alicia. i love the look on dick durbin's face there -- [laughter] what do you make of oprah as a plausible candidate? >> well, i don't think we should rule anything out after 2016 and trump, because nobody would have thought we'd have president trump at this point. [laughter] but, you know, i think she would, actually, unite the democratic base -- paul: really? >> i think she has brand name