part of that is the fact that they see everything through sort of a legal lens, or an hr lens or some sort of lens that sort of takes away all of the human aspects. attend of the day it is all about human decency and respecting one another and if you follow the basic rules about respecting one another, it's gonna be fine. it's gonna work out just fine. but when people clearly go over the line, it's obvious. what harvey weinstein did, the potted plant in front of the poor woman that he's with in the kitchen. that's just unacceptable in any circumstance. pepe would never have done that. >> martha: very aggressive though. katie, what do you think? >> i just watch those clips and think, thank god i am married because i don't have to deal with the dating world. that's exactly what it reminds me of. i think you have to look back in time to see this problem. if you look at recent hollywood