themselves and go backwards as part of the negotiation between the white house and capitol hill? >> jason: professor, you're okay if it's not a physical wall but border security, i would probably disagree with you that economic develop meant in mexico, i don't know why the americans have to pay for that? you would be okay, right, professor? if it is not just the wall but border security and the definition of that coming we may want to haggle.78p&c @&c% >> guest worker program would be more efficient use of our tax dollars than actually building a wall, which i think would be way more expensive than you expect, because of the land rights we would have to buy through eminent domain and it is not effective. make sense to talk about border security and daca reform without the wall. >> jason: steve cortes, what else is the president going to have to give, because it is a long line, a solemn reform,