i jump over there and knock something off of ya. i ain't lying. your body would be going one way and your wig would be going the other. you better ask somebody. the success did not come quickly. for five years, you were a failure. yeah, yeah, yeah. well, when i look back now, being older, i realized it was all learning and proving and-- and getting me into the right place to be able to handle what i'm dealing with now. so over five years you were on the ropes. you didn't give up. - no. no. - why? there was something in me that i knew for sure this was what i was supposed to do. and nothing could deter me. not even my mother. she said to me one day, she said, "stop doing it. just go get a job with the phone company making about 3 or $400 a week, get some benefits. you'll be fine for the rest of your life." this is, you know, that was her idea success. buthere was sothinin me th knew that there was something further. and that's what-- that's what i had to follow. oprah helped you persevere, didn't she?