25,000 which people think is sooner than later. >> dana: looks like it. just because i have been interested, what are people doing to cash in on the bitcoin mania? >> this is something that has taken our nation by storm. it was less than 1,000 bucks in the beginning of the year. at one exchange it even broke through 20,000 this week. this is an unbelievable story. a search on google, buy bitcoin with credit card. no, don't do that. nobody wants you using your credit card to buy the crypto currency which some people are still cautious about. when we talk about credit card debt, americans have over $1 trillion in outstanding credit card debt. that beat the previous record. i'm not sure that i would advise anybody to use their credit card to buy bitcoin. how about some great american companies? or just the s&p500? >> dana: america listen to nicole petallides. she knows what she speaks about,