producers and talk show host who met on the job. millions of americans who met their spouse at work. i don't think i have the right to tell people who to date. the problem here is that we are starting to criminalize legitimate relationships between consenting adults and that's a real problem for me. and if this does in fact end up in court, millions of taxpayer dollars are going to be spent by pbs to defend itself and i don't think the taxpayers want their money spent that way. >> tucker: i've never agreed with you are very much, tavis, but i have said i agree with you on a lot of what you just said and i appreciate you coming on. >> my pleasure, thank you tucker. >> tucker: last week lisa bloom was further disgraced, as if that were possible, by the revelations she sought to make payments to various women's in exchange for accusing donald trump of sexual misconduct. embarrassing, grossly unethical, could also be illegal? gibbons is an attorney and law expert and it joins us tonight. you said this may present a