so he stuck with that, the fbi is stuck with it. unfortunately president trump is stuck with it as well. >> martha: obstruction of justice. >> the definition of obstruction of justice is the interference within law enforcement or judicial proceeding for a corrupt purpose. so if donald trump did say to james comey layoff of mike flynn and the purpose was flynn has suffered enough, not obstructio obstruction. the fbi has more important things to do, not a corrupt purpose. but if the purpose was to prevent general flynn from telling the fbi something about him, the president, or people around him, that's a corrupt purpose. can the president be indicted? never happened before, there's nothing too prohibited. obstructionists obstruction of m the basis of impeachment, almost universally us. >> martha: it can start the political process. >> which then goes to congress. it doesn't have the final rules of evidence that we have in a court of law. >> martha: we will take a