government even when democrats were in charge. what we know that it's not good for them if it comes to that. he seems to be willing to play chicken manure average president as a matter friend. now, he was working the meetings on capitol hill, trying to get this package done. it's interesting because we have a description from inside the meeting. this comes to us from senator joe kennedy out of louisiana. often very colorful in his descriptions. he said that it was much different then the meetings they had about health care, much more positive, nobody is standing up and storming out, nobody is talking about anybody's mama. nobody's talking about anybody's native american heritage. it's a positive meeting. do you think they get it done? >> if we set the bar low enough, we can always succeed. if the no mama jokes is the standard for a productive luncheon, we can get there. the president has competing needs right now. on the one hand, he needs republican unity. he needs republican solidarity to get behind that tax plan. a lot of the guys don't like the bill, it's not popular.