sanctuary cities, philadelphia, itself, i mean, they just don't believe in accepting the law as it is written. >> i think that's right. they could have filed mogs to intervene in the supreme court case, they could go back to supreme court if they want but they don't have guts to do that. they filed new suit. that just makes no sense. >> now -- you know, the sad part is you have groups of individual who is are selfless and taking care of those who are poor and tieing and are forced to go through the stress, these are mean-spirited plaintiffs and, you know, in tend, i do believe there's a god. anyway, mark, good luck, when do you think this will be over? >> well, the first hearings will be in december and i actually think it might be over pretty quickly because these aren't good lawsuits and grand standing lawsuits and they are going to