if you cross an episcopalian with a quaker you get a sufi as the nearest equivalent. the fanatics are trying to exterminate them. that should alert us to about how vicious these people are. >> arthel: vicious and horrible. is it in part that they can only as the president is saying they are cowards and can only get to soft targets? >> they can only get to soft targets. easier to do so. i have trouble with calling suicide bombers cowards. they are monsters. they're beasts, sub human. anybody who is willing to die for what they believe in, how horrific, i don't call them cowards. i prefer monsters. however we split the semantics, the point is that these people are the enemies of all humanity.