level, they would probably impose something like the territorial-based sanctions we've seen on iran in which case there is no exception to the sanctions. you look at the country, the entire country is sanctioned, not just the government and certain individuals or institutions within it. that's the direction i would expect the trump administration to take. it would align the approach we use on north korea from a sanctions perspective. with the approach we've used on iran. we treat north korea the same way we treat syria and the trump administration will step that up. >> julie: the move mostly symbolic. likely not preventing kim jong-un and his defiance in developing nuclear weapons. however, does it set up the u.s. to position itself to take harsher measures against the rogue regime? we've talked how the president has met with the prime minister of japan and met with south korea and their leaders in order to put the pressure on north korea. the missile defense program, for example. something we need to amp up.