'cause once i started dunking, like, the day-- nobody had ever seen me dunk before. i would dunk and hang on the rim and pull myself up, and the crowd would go crazy. i was like, "he was right." let's talk a little bit about the partnership between you and kobe. that was something people had never seen before, the power of that partnership. we were the most enigmatic, controversial, dominant, one-two punch in the history of the game. a lot of stuff went on outside the game that never happened inside the game. like, people actually think that kobe bryant and shaq o'neal hate each other. that was never the case. there was a falling out for a time when kobe said some pretty harsh things when he was having his difficulties in colorado. he told cops that you paid off women. didn't affect me, i mean, 'cause i had to, like, sit back and understand what he was going through. like, he was going through a real life situation.