like. but there's nothing, there's nothing reforming about this bill at all. it's just, it's built on top of a statue quo -- status quo and people who have influence maintains influence. that's my problem. i can't speak for my listeners. kelly: it sounds like you're saying, go big or go home and be bold with your plan. you mentioned you wanted something bigger like going for the flat tax or a fair tax. what do suburban vote,desire in regard to tax reform? i know you hear people on a daily basis on your show. do they view the house plan as something that will meet their demands and do they view the senate plan as something that will continue to be worked on, particularly as relates to the individual mandate of obamacare being repealed in that proposal? >> can i be honest with you? >> sure, be honest, of course. >> i don't think that most people have an opinion on the tax bill have read it. i think it depends on which