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have a draft anymore, that we have an all volunteer service because we know we can tap into that reserve of americans who believes in what our nation stands for and serve. david: colonel shaffer, it seems to go in waves. we had, of course, ronald reagan, who was very tough in the military and won the cold war essentially, even though it happened after he left office and then we got lazy about things, and cut way back called it the peace dividend during the clinton years and some say it led us to leave down our guard which gave room for the terrorists to make their move. then with gw bush, we got very active in the military and president obama's era we pulled back again and now it seems we're building up again. so it's like a rollercoaster, isn't it? >> look, to your point, i enlisted in '81 and i fully thought that i would die in germany for those who remember

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