need more good people to have guns --? they ridicule you for. that you say that, jerry, they'll clip this tape and run it on a late night show and they're just going to go blah, blah, blah, blah. then we have people dead. >> it's common sense. at liberty, we have teachers who carry guns with a concealed carry permit. every time -- every concert, every sporting event, every church service should have a certain number of people with concealed permits with guns. all of the deacons carry guns on sunday morning here. most mass shootings like this occur in begun-free zones, that's true since 1950. this one is a little different. but it's unusual. but that's the only way to stop evil. it takes police about 11 minutes to respond. the shootings are over in five minutes. i don't know why that, to me it's common sense. i don't know why it's so controversial. it's just liberty, we've --