so then we circle back to diplomatic options and that's why president trump is pushing for diplomacy here. this visit to south korea is very important. but even more important are the meetings he will have with leaders of china and russia because it's china and russia that really have leverage over north korea. that's why this two week visit is so important for this crisis with north korea. brian: but they have to see the military hardware. they have to believe beyond the talking and beyond the diplomacy, colonel is, a legitimate military option. have you seen it? these guys -- the guys in charge or the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and secretary o secretary of de, the people that you know have you seen it? >> look i know general dunford and i think he has made a very clear statement of the fact to do certain things you have to have troops on the ground. this goes back, again, to clinton. clinton proposed the same thing. i mean, i have worked these options. i have walked the terrain. i have been to the dmz. i have been there.