>> laura: is that verified? >> that's what i heard. whether it's 23 or 2, it's a lot of people. >> laura: i was at rallies. people want that wall built? >> we will have a wall. >> laura: paul ryan said $4 billion. >> first of all they say the wall will cost $40 million. it won't cost anywhere year that. less than half. you don't have a wall for 2000 miles. you have rivers and mountains. for $18 million we will have a great wall. we have the people from border eople and ice working with us clely. they will have to use it. one of the things that came up, we want to have vision through