conservatives like a paul ryan, who was always for spending cuts, economics hasn't really changed. politics has. they're trying to do the best they can within this environment. >> you raise a really important point. when we have a big debt, they said that's why we need to cut medicare and medicade and education. they wanted spending cuts because of the debt. turns out it wasn't because of the debt. now they're willing to finance tax cuts and increase the debt. >> dana: people could say oh wow democrats are now concerned ab the deficit. that can go back and forth. >> i have been concerned about the deficit for a long time. >> dana: i know you have. are you concerned about this news this morning from donna brazile about the dnc and hillary clinton's campaign, being involved, possibility of this exacerbating what is a democratic party civil war as republican civil war wages on