to see them, which speaks to where we are on cyber war fare. are we doing enough? >> cyber, it's such a difficult issue. mainly because the goal posts keep changing what constitutes cyber secure. we saw early on where they were going to try to take down systems, maybe do some manipulation. how do we get the private sector up to the right level? that's always a challenge. the government is doing their thing, but what about the rest of the nation. >> harris: without pushing against the capitalist environment. you want them to be able to do business and promise customers what they can, but at the same time it's complicated. let's talk specifically about airports. some airports they want family and friends to be able to join you at the gate again. which meansow you got a lot more people inside the airport. it >>'s a wholistic view of security. what you try to do identify single points of failure and eliminate them. we hope what's happening is enough experience in the tank to