in two years. we would probably call that person a terrorist, correct? those are the people we don't want in our country, the bad immigrants, who we vet and try to keep out. >> tucker: i hate to give a history lesson to a professor, but columbus did not kill 200,000 people. p d what you are referring to are the viruses that columbus and his crew and subsequent waves of explorers and immigrants from europe brought to the new world that decimated the native population which is obviously a tragedy, but it's very differenh from what you're saying. >> i'm also talk about european brutality. he laid the map basically for the trans-atlantic slave trade. he was the first person to take captives across the atlantic. again, he was part of things that i think as americans we don't stand for. >> tucker: you are aware, slavery was pre-existing in the americas. the native population practiced