a semi automatic rifle's rate of fire to that of an automatic. >> there has been a lot of talk about what we can do, where we can come together, and i think this issue represents a very likely common ground, if there is one. >> sandra: joining me is doug schoen and molly hemingway, both fox news contributors. we're all required to become experts on these guns, molly. something you know a lot about. a few days ago, not many of us knew what a bump stock was. there is an important distinction to be made here. it does not, once used in converting those semi automatic weapons, it doesn't become into the category of an automatic weapon but it does fire at nearly the rate of a machine gun. there is not a ban on this device or this conversion kit or whatever you want to call it. should there be? >> it's an important semantic division. the entire reason why it is legal to use bump stocks is because it does not -- it is