background. he worked for lockheed martin defense at one point. in the department for about three years. and they made a statement, the giant engineering firm, so defense firms, it is interesting, he had a background as a pilot, owned two planes, more that we would learn that we talk about stability. to that kind of commitment. so we are learning lots of details. >> sandra: you were asking about how people can get their loved ones. this is not over. we do not know the extent of the fatalities yet. we do not know how bad it is yet. but what we heard from at the top of the hour was the mayor of las vegas. carolyn goodman, she said that we need help and blood. she said the hospitals are overwhelmed with victims. the rooms are filled. there are people in need of medical attention that are lining the hallways. it is a situation that as far as