about what he said. >> tucker: no, it's not my opinion, it's a factual statement. the levees were not blown up. we know conclusively that they were not blown up. >> that's a derogatory statement. >> tucker: because that is an outrageous thing to say. the african-american-run city of new orleans determined that was untrue, it's a lie. it scares the hell out of people. that's all i'm saying. >> who got scared?-a >> tucker: i did, to think my government would blow up a levee to kill people? are you joking? >> if you are feeling any amount of fear, then it might be a smidge clos to what an african-american male might feel just driving -- >> tucker: they're making it worse, that is my point. thank you.ca >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: we have lawrencee jones, a host from theblaze tv. as i just said, i'm not against conversations about the police or the abuse of power, which is real, and i think we should talk about it. what i am against is people who claim to be journalists making