insurance that covers what they want it to cover. it will be a huge step forward for the health insurance problems we have in this country. >> shannon: you say it's a first step. there are things to be addressed, taxes, mandates, those kinds of things. where do you go next even if you give consumers the power to buy across state lines, what about the lingering issues? >> this is a big first step. millions of people buying across state lines and having access to inexpensive insurance. the big part of the problem in healthcare has been in the individual market. if you're a plumber or a carpenter, an accountant, pest control, some kind of small business, these are the people who worry about their spouse getting sick and losing their insurance or their rates going up. i'll let every one of them, 11 million people, buy across state lines and join associations. the president and i have been working on this. this is a traoel free market alternative graham-cassidy. that was just a big government reshuffling of obamacare. but it kept the obamacare taxes and spending in place.