he said that he wished there was more of a bipartisan process, but the reality is that democrats are never going to agree to any bill other than an insurance bailout. and truly, if he didn't care about by cartman ship, he would be sending these monies back to both democratic and republican states that can choose to use of the way they wanted to. >> ab, is it fair to say that he twice now kept obamacare alive? >> well, yes. i mean -- look. anything as the bill author said could happen over the weekend. they could change some things, tweak it in a way to pick up some other support. maybe they can bring lisa murkowski or susan collins around. and maybe it won't be john mccain who killed the bill. but i happen to agree with john mccain that anything that's going to last is going to have to be bipartisan. republicans railed against this bill and so did i on the show with you, bret, for so many