>> dana: same with clapper and rice. >> kimberly: by the way, who would have access to that information and then yes, the president could have been caught up in it. going well into 2017. again, it puts the president and a compromising position. >> dana: i think paul manafort is staring down the barrel of the gun.n. the o.j. of the fbi. i'm there to flip into has to make a lot of people very concerned because it's not that he was calling president trump after the election even. now you actually have -- who else? all of these people being called into talk to the grand jury and investigators who know that they could possibly be on tape. i don't necessarily blame president trump. i think paul manafort made a terrible decision and put the president and a bad spot. >> kennedy: take responsibility for your campaign and the people you hire. have a better vetting process because if you've got someone who is so filthy and scummy that they are talking to foreign governments and they are going to entrap you and ensnare you in