was it a yellow bandana? yes it was. is that your bucket list? i don't play golf. i don't play tennis. i don't have any other passions. i don't play mah-jong, i don't know how play bridge. so there isn't anything that i love to do. i like to work and i like the adventure of working. and i'm sort of getting the hang of-- little bit of the hang of the business of it. um, and i like the creative part of it. and as long as you're doing it and not banking on it, you know, to put bread on the table, it's really sort of a lark. harvey: there are people who are billionaires who want to be bigger, they want more billions. do you laugh at that, or do you understand that? judy: there is a certain saturation point, where you're not worried about money. there are people who say, "wow they have a lot of money. i'm gonna target them, i'm gonna charge them more than i would charge somebody else. i'm gonna get over on them." do people dare try to get over on you? you know, i wouldn't say that that's a good idea.