not a wall. >> the wall is a waste of money. there is a thing called a ladder. a shovel you can go under it. and most of people oversay their visas. judge jeanine: david, last word. >> we are going to have border security that will have a wall. we had this discussion earlier about what the president said and what he didn't say. the president said there are parts of the wall being refurbished now and made stronger. there are four model types they are working on. there will be a wall with border security and it will include more agents on the border to do work. it can look at immigration reform to keep people from coming here illegally. judge jeanine: david alegalla, chris hahn, thank you for being here. next, dinesh d'souza joins me to talk hillary and her