kale instead of hemlock. so, greg, what do you make of this? if we get specific, is this better or worse than what kathy griffin did? >> greg: off the cuff. i don't trust a skinny chef. that is like a fat trainer. i don't get it. he eats a lot on his show but he never gains weight. this i would do an awful thing to donald trump is passe. it's supposed to be edgy but it's incredibly predictable. he is supposed to be a rebel. he passes himself off as a rebel. it's all group think now. he should be resisting this kind of mentality. he is now about as edgy of episode of "antique road show." >> gillian: it's so good. i love that show. >> greg: you know what? >> gillian: jesse, what do you think about this? >> jesse: wanting to hurt the president is a job