like tonight, having this conversation and moving the ball forward, working bipartisan support. >> mark short said that president may need democrat support to get above 50. they would like to see if they can get 60 votes so they don't need to do this in the reconciliation process. it makes it more difficult what they can and cannot do. they would like to get a filibuster proof majority. the president, looks like he's going to war hurricane damage in florida on thursday. the white house is firming up the plants that i am told he will likely go to tampa, fort myers. >> shepard: thank you. lawmakers on capitol hill talking about approving more emergency spending packages to help with recovery from both hurricanes. harvey in texas and beyond, irma