anything done. once you pass a budget, you are allowed with just 51 president obamas that implement that budget get us on a path to start reducing the deficit and reducing debt. that's the mechanism they tried to use on obamacare. it failed for a bunch of reasons. that's the easiest path forward to getting tax reform done. american people know we need tax reform and growth. let's get it done as quickly as possible. brian: we pass a budget for 2018. go to tax reform even though this will be the biggest reform in taxes in 20 plus years. you can could something that massive on reconciliation? >> you can do it. there are some details. if it doesn't stay revenue neutral it expires after 10 years, i think if you get that net tax cut, even if it expires in 10 years or some piece of it expires in 10 years. you may see that happen on this one. brian: what democrats really should go along with this tax reform if people find it pal lateddable?