>> yeah, this is politics. i am hearing them on tv saying the justice department should review -- carefully review these cases as that they carefully reviewed bill clinton's brother on charges. the president -- i will stack up those hundreds and thousands of pardons and i've interviewed gerald ford about his pardon of richard nixon and george w. bush. we talked about the iran-contra caspar weinberger. i stack goes up against the pardon of arpaio anytime. >> incurious from an historical day. this came on a friday night when it barely 90 houston. when you have these other pardons, bill clinton's brother, pardoning of richard nixon, did they occur in similar circumstances, these different news nights? where did these all historically? >> very often it the case because pardons can be controversial. gerald ford couldn't hide the