first, rockport you lost communications, then you lost them to places like victoria. then you lost port aransas and other cities. so, even before they can send people in, they've got to figure out how to get those communications systems up. there could be an enormous amount of devastation that we don't know about as we look there at the texas emergency operations center in austin where we're awaiting the governor's press conference. we talked to folks in the emergency operation center last night and we said okay, we can't get a hold of anybody in rockport. tell us what you're hearing. they said we can't get a hold of them either. elizabeth: we had a long conversation with elaine dukes, and see lived through katrina and what she learned. the last of it was preparedness and getting people out because they learned their lessons sometimes they didn't make themselves vocally available to perhaps the elderly or people afraid to leave their pets they weren't going to leave. which is why you mentioned from