long time donors call and say what's wrong with you guys? what happened to you? we have had to explain that it's really just a label. it's a label that they use to try to see you lens your viewpoint. it's nothing more than the old fashioned ad homonym attack that you learn in debated tactics that if you don't want to deal with ideas, you shut them up by calling them names and because of what you said a minute ago, it's worked simply because the media, the mainstream media in the main has not called them out on their own capricious and fallacious definition of what constitutes hate. >> tucker: without explaining it. pretty handy test for those at home. if you are trying to determine whether the media outlet you are reading and watch something legitimate. if they repeat propaganda by the southern poverty law center that is by definition propaganda. do you wake up and find out you are part of a hate group? >> that's exactly right.