people are fighting -- i remember being very upset. there's a statue in birmingham, alabama with my daddy, a.d. king and two of his colleagues, reverend nelson. reverend porter. for a long time, they just said to the unknown leaders of the movement or something. i said you know exactly who that is. you have the picture of my daddy and reverend porter and reverend smith marching. i thought about it. my daddy wouldn't want to have a statue named after him so i could be upset and mad because his name wasn't on it. statues can upset you but we cannot just erase them, because if you remove our history, people will forget about it. >> neil: i agree with you. >> we'll have to go through it again. >> neil: but when we get into foolish stuff and gets overdone -- i'm not saying there's legitimate gripes here, but we've had our jump the shark moment with this espn guy. i don't know who recommended what he was very amenable to