to fathom. when terror and technology wed, we will ask yourselves how this could happen and see this terrible period now as the good old days. [applause] terry, terry -- >> yes, sir. greg: you fight terrorists, and you fought them for a living -- >> 25 years almost. i just retired in october. greg: what are we doing wrong, what could we do better? >> you've got to give me more than 30 seconds, because i flew up to do this damn show. greg: we'll be right back. [applause] >> okay. here's -- i'm talking now about the home grown terror stuff. i've heard everything about everything else, and i've been doing that my whole life. sometimes you need to become what you aren't in order to protect and insure the future survival of what you actually are. that's principle behind self-defense and behind a lot of war withs. we do it, but we don't want to.