who came and had torches at night and started this -- 's before i did. i said: they were the ones that instigated the rally. they came to rumble, juan, and the police did nothing. p they stood down. who knows of the mayor told them to stand down. in any other city, you would have seen a police separate and divide people. the aclu said that they stood by and watched. >> juan: i can't abide that. that's just not reality. >> kimberly: there's a couple of things that went wrong here. number one, they should have shut it down and it should have been better prepared to make sure soda didn't escalate. to any kind of violence, if they knew they were going to have this protest, they should have major, reporters in the field said they didn't shut it down. it should have been shut down. it's unacceptable. there is loss of life. never to go, the criticism about the communication of the president, we sit here at the table and we criticize president obama and past presidents if they weren't on message and if they did not denounce or come out and make a