the gulf war and been through all of that other than going back to the cuban missile crisis, we've never had a dictator say, hey, i might nuke us, even cuba wasn't going to nuke us, they didn't have that technology. this is a dangerous situation, personally with at least part of my portfolio i'm on the sidelines. i'm more of a trader. dagen: john, i want to ask you before we go, give you the final word on this, what about the cost of us, the u.s. not acting and taking a tough stance against this -- this rising nuclear threat. >> we are going to have to do that sooner or later and might as well be now because this guy -- the nuclear armaments and potentially could sell to get money.